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The Ongoing Wager

by Dan Gunderson

As Pinto (Daniel Gunderson) and the White Shadow (Brad Jones) get into the second month of their podcast, the Pinto and White Shadow Show, it has become apparent that these two make a lot of wagers.

They have decided to put their betting ways to good, or bad, use. Throughout their podcast, you may here them talk about a player, team or situation and how they think these things will play out.

Brad will usually take the more conservative take on a player, saying he may hit only 5 homers in the next month. Daniel tends to go with the more outlandish and would probably make the bet that a player will hit 12 in the next month.

They have decided to keep track of these wagers as the season goes along and put them up on the show blog so you, the listener, can keep track of them too. The seasons will be broken down in to three parts, Fall, Winter/Sring and Summer.

To kick off the fall season, Brad and Daniel ventured into the heated topic of Brock Jensen. For some reason, Pinto has taken issue with Jensen being named to some preseason watch lists and the Missouri Valley Football Conference preseason first team. The White Shadow could care less.

During the 005 podcast, Pinto believed that Jensen would not finish on either the First or Second All-MVFC Team at the end of the year. The White Shadow believed he would finish on one of the two. (Winner = Brad Jones)

(08/18/2013) Update:

During the 007 podcast, Pinto says that not one receiver for NDSU will make more than 55 receptions this year. The White Shadow takes the over on this wager. (Winner = Brad Jones)

Another wager was made during the 007 podcast. This one featured the White Shadow saying NDSU will fail to have two runners over 1,000 yards for the third straight year. Pinto believes they will have two 1,000 runners. (Winner = Pinto)

The final wager made on the 007 podcast was Pinto and the White Shadow picking who they believed will win each division in the AFC and who will win the AFC Conference.

White Shadow:
East: New England Patriots Correct
North: Pittsburgh Steelers Wrong
South: Houston Texans Wrong
West: Denver Broncos Correct
AFC Wild Card: Baltimore Ravens, Indianapolis Colts (Wrong, Wrong)
AFC Champ: Denver Broncos

Pinto:
East: New England Patriots Correct
North: Cincinnati Bengals Correct
South: Houston Texans Wrong
West: Denver Broncos Correct
AFC Wild Card: Baltimore Ravens, Indianapolis Colts (Wrong, Wrong)
AFC Champ: Houston Texans Wrong. So Wrong

(08/25/2013) Update:

During the 008 podcast, Brad and Daniel got into a discussion on what two teams could possibly pick off the NDSU football team during the Missouri Valley Football Conference season. Pinto believes it will be either South Dakota State or Southern Illinois while the White Shadow thinks it will be either the University of Northern Iowa or Youngstown State University. (Winner = Push)

Another over/under discussion popped up in the form of Brock Jensen stats. Pinto believes Jensen will have under 6.5 interceptions and under 15.5 touchdowns thrown. The White Shadow took the over on both. (Winner = White Shadow)

A final Bison wager appeared in the 008 podcast of the Pinto and White Shadow Show. This one dealt with the point spread of the game between NDSU and Kansas State University. The guys set an imaginary 6.5 point spread and Pinto believes the score will be under that while the White Shadow took the over. (Pinto = Victory)

Finally, the guys picked their NFC playoff teams and who they believed will represent the NFC in the Super Bowl this season.

White Shadow:
East: New York Giants Wrong
North: Green Bay Packers Correct
South: Atlanta Falcons Wrong
West: San Francisco 49ers Wrong
NFC Wild Card: Seattle Seahawks, Washington Redskins (Wrong, Wrong)
NFC Champ: Atlanta Falcons Wrong

Pinto:
East: Dallas Cowboys Wrong
North: Minnesota Vikings Wrong
South: Atlanta Falcons Wrong
West: San Francisco 49ers Wrong
NFC Wild Card: Green Bay Packers, Seattle Seahawks (Wrong, Wrong)
NFC Champ: San Francisco 49ers

(09/01/2013) Update:

During the 009 podcast, Brad Jones and Daniel Gunderson made the wager on the amount of wins the Minnesota Vikings would have during the 2013 season. The number was 9.5 wins and Brad took the under and Pinto took the over. (Winner = White Shadow)

Finally, the White Shadow and Pinto picked their Super Bowl winners for the 2013 NFL Season.

White Shadow:
Denver Broncos over the Atlanta Falcons. (Wrong)

Pinto:
San Francisco 49ers over the Houston Texans. (Wrong)

(09/08/2013) Update:

Only one wager was made in the 010 podcast, but it was one that Brad Jones isunbelievableconfident in. Pinto thinks the Green Bay Packers are not as good as advertised while the White Shadow thinks they will be division winners. Listen to hear the bet. (Winner = White Shadow)

(09/29/2013) Update:

A wager was made during the 013 podcast on the Major League Baseball playoffs. Both Pinto and the White Shadow believe that the Detroit Tigers will represent the AL in the World Series. However, they differ in who will represent the NL. (Winner = White Shadow)

World Series Picks:
White Shadow: St. Louis Cardinals vs. Detroit Tigers (White Shadow = Winner)

Pinto: LA Dodgers vs. Detroit Tigers

(10/13/2013) Update:

Pinto and White Shadow got into their picks for the NBA's Eastern Conference. The picks included their top five teams, in no particular order, who they thought was going to be the conference MVP, who would represent the Eastern Conference in the NBA Finals and who is going to have a breakout/comeback season.

NBA Eastern Conference Predictions:

Pinto: Miami Heat (Correct)

Chicago Bulls (Correct)

Indiana Pacers (Correct)

Brooklyn Nets (Wrong)

New York Knicks (Wrong)

White Shadow: Miami Heat (Correct)

Chicago Bulls (Correct)

Indiana Pacers (Correct)

Brooklyn Nets (Wrong)

New York Knicks (Wrong)

Eastern Conference Winner:

Pinto: Miami Heat

White Shadow: Miami Heat

Eastern Conference MVP:

Pinto: LeBron James (Correct)

White Shadow: LeBron James (Correct)

Eastern Conference Breakout/Comeback Player:

Pinto: Derrick Rose (Wrong)

White Shadow: Danny Granger (Wrong)

(10/20/2013) Update:

During the 016 podcast of the Pinto and White Shadow Show, Brad and Daniel picked their favorites for the 2013 Fall Classic.

Pinto: Boston Red Sox (Pinto = Winner)

White Shadow: St. Louis Cardinals

Also during the 016 podcast, Pinto and the White Shadow gave their preview of the NBA Western Conference.

NBA Western Conference Predictions:

Pinto: Oklahoma City Thunder (Correct)

Los Angeles Clippers (Correct)

Golden State Warriors (Wrong)

Houston Rockets (Correct)

Memphis Grizzlies (Wrong)

White Shadow: Oklahoma City Thunder (Correct)

Los Angeles Clippers (Correct)

San Antonio Spurs (Correct)

Golden State Warriors (Wrong)

Memphis Grizzlies (Wrong)

Western Conference Winner:

Pinto: OKC Thunder

White Shadow: OKC Thunder

Western Conference MVP:

Pinto: Kevin Durant (Correct)

White Shadow: Kevin Durant (Correct)

Western Conference Breakout/Comeback Player:

Pinto: Anthony Davis (Correct)

White Shadow: Kevin Love (Correct)

(11/10/2013) Update:

During the 018 podcast, Pinto and the White Shadow made a wager on how much NDSU would win by against the Youngstown State University Penguins. They set the line at 5.5 points. Pinto took the over while the White Shadow took the under. Listen to the wager here. (Winner = Pinto)

(11/17/2013) Update:

During the 019 podcast, Pinto and the White Shadow made a wager on the SDSU vs. YSU game. Daniel believes if Youngstown State wins, they are in the playoffs. If they lose, they do not make the FCS playoffs. Brad believes they are in no matter what. Listen to the wager here. (Winner = Pinto)

(01/07/2014) Update:

It has been awhile since this thing has updated (blame it on the holidays) but as Pinto was digging through the archives, he came across an old Wager from the 023 podcast where Brad Jones took Eastern Washington to beat Towson in the FCS Semi-Final and Pinto took Towson. Listen to the wager here. (Winner = Pinto)

(01/08/2014) Update:

During the 024 podcast, Brad Jones and Daniel Gunderson put the over/under on NFL coaches being fired at 7 1/2 within in three weeks of the end of the NFL regular season. (Winner = Pinto)

(03/24/2014) Update:

During the 036 podcast, Pinto and the White Shadow make their picks for the 2014 MLB season.

Pinto
AL East - Boston Red Sox
AL Central - Detroit Tigers
AL West - Texas Rangers
AL Wild Cards - Baltimore Orioles & New York Yankees

NL East - Atlanta Braves
NL Central - Pittsburgh Pirates
NL West - LA Dodgers
NL Wild Cards - Cincinnati Reds & St. Louis Cardinals

White Shadow:
AL East - Tampa Bay Rays
AL Central - Detroit Tigers
AL West - LA Angels
AL Wild Cards - Boston Red Sox & Oakland A's

NL East - Washington Nationals
NL Central - Pittsburgh Pirates
NL West - LA Dodgers
NL Wild Cards - Atlanta Braves & St. Louis Cardinals

(05/06/2014) Update:

During the 041 podcast, Pinto and the White Shadow discuss what round they think Billy Turner and Marcus Williams will go in the 2014 NFL Draft.

Billy Turner - Over/Under Pick 155
Pinto - Under (Winner)
White Shadow - Over

Marcus Williams - Drafted/Undrafted
Pinto - Undrafted (Winner)
White Shadow - Drafted

Make sure and stay tuned to this post as it will get updated weekly with the fall season on going wager.

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